CCSD avoids layoffs
by Lindsay Field
lfield@mdjonline.com
May 31, 2012 12:52 AM | 3610 views | 22 22 comments | 6 6 recommendations | email to a friend | print
MARIETTA — Cobb Superintendent Dr. Michael Hinojosa is “very happy” that the school district will not have to lay off anyone to balance the Fiscal Year 2013 budget.

“I’m actually relieved,” Hinojosa said Wednesday. “I just want to thank everybody for letting us know if they were going to leave.”

The job cuts were made through attrition and shuffling teachers between schools.

During its initial budget discussions in January, the school board learned that Hinojosa and the district’s Chief Financial Officer Mike Addison were recommending cutting 350 jobs.

From the outset, Hinojosa wanted to achieve the 350 through attrition and avoid layoffs.

Hinojosa said it took a lot of time and effort on behalf of the district’s human resources department to get the task done.

“It was a bit unusual because you usually make your elementary (attrition) faster than your secondary, but that didn’t happen for us,” he said. “(Human Resources) had to work real hard at getting people placed too … I want to thank everybody for making it happen.”

John Adams with Educators First also credited human resources for taking on what he described as a “Herculean task” to meet the attrition numbers.

“It’s still unfortunate that we had to eliminate 350 positions, but still a good thing that we didn’t have to let anybody go,” he said.

The FY13 budget, which was approved on May 21, includes cutting 350 teaching jobs, implementing three furlough days, increasing class sizes by at least two students, discontinuing the Project2400 SAT program after 2014, reducing media paraprofessionals in middle and high schools, and taking $28.2 million from the $99 million reserve funds and $23 million from SPLOST II excess funds.

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Working Class
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June 01, 2012
It does not matter if you are NOT paid for "time off" and "only" pad for 190 days or less. There are many people with college degrees who work year round with one week or two weeks vacation who are paid the same or less than teachers.

And yes, let's keep our facts straight. No one likes to see another employed person having a hard time, but everyone I know who has a job now is doing more work for either less pay or the same pay for the last few years. So when teachers constantly say but "we are only paid for the days we work" it gets old.
@Working Class
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June 02, 2012
And it also gets old when people say teachers have "all this paid time off." We don't. Spring break? Unpaid. The so-called "Winter Holidays?" Unpaid.

This is NOT a complaint (and neither was "Again's" original comment). It was a clarification of a common misconception. We are contract employees. In a good year we are paid for 190 days, per our contract. For most teachers (and all the good ones), those 190 days are more than 8 hour days and work weeks are more than 40 hours - like many professionals. So maybe it would make you feel better to think of "summers off" as comp time?

Finally, let's start comparing apples to apples, shall we? When you look at jobs that require both a 4 year degree and certification, teachers are at the low end of the scale, even when contract days are factored in. When pure hourly wages are compared, teacher compensation plummets. Finally, in the last fifteen years or so, starting pay for teachers has increased in an effort to attract the so-called "best and brightest" who might be more inclined to pursue a more lucrative career. However, pay for teachers still tops out at a significantly lower rate than for comparable positions of longevity and education.

Next time, do a little research before you start bashing.
anonymous
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June 01, 2012
Someone said here,"A number of good, experienced, long-time teachers are retiring earlier than originally planned after being fed up with lack of support from administrators and continuing cuts, furloughs, and increased workloads." In the real world outside of teachers (excessive paid time off, etc.), a number of good experienced long-time workers are not retiring early because their pensions were cut off 10 years ago in the private sector. They are fed up with lack of support from upper management, continuing cuts (I have endured 13 rounds of cuts in 11 years), requests for early retirement volunteers, and increased workloads. Teachers, welcome to the real world and welcome you are sharing the same problems other people are...the "other" world we in the private sector live in...without pensions, the summer off, a week at Christmas, etc.
again..
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June 01, 2012
"Excessive paid time off?" I can't believe this still has to be explained to some: teachers are paid for the days they work, ONLY. Normally, that's 190 days..190 x daily pay divided by 12 months. We are NOT paid for holidays, time at Christmas, etc.

We are all having a hard time in this economy. Let's keep our facts straight and be compassionate for all who are affected, regardless their occupation.
to again
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June 01, 2012
Understand - that not many EMPLOYEES make the money you do for working 190 days.

Let's get real. If a contractor made what you make for 190 days. There would NOT be sick days, NO benefits - I'm tired of hearing poor teachers. Would I want your job, NO. But then I don't want to be a salesperson, a developer or many other jobs.

to again, again
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June 01, 2012
Yes, we understand the simple math you show here, but teachers choose to work a job that only pays for 190 days. There is always the summer and breaks where you could have a side job to pocket more money, but if you do not want that then stop the lesson. I could easily show that if you multiplied your daily pay rate by 240 or 260 days that it is a nice salary, but you choose to work 50-70 days less than most of us (2 months!). Work less=pay less. Do you want to explain to everyone the retirement program to show how bad that is too when you retire at 53 and come back 49%?
to : to again
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June 01, 2012
THIS teacher made the comment about being paid only for the days worked in response to the comment made by another blogger.

As far as "other" employees making the same amount as I, I have almost 30 years experience working with at-risk kids and hold two post-graduate degrees. Please don't compare me to a contractor.

I love my work and realize I could never be paid my worth. I wake every day knowing I am doing God's work and never expected (or wanted) to become wealthy. A little respect for the love, dedication, sacrifice and hard work would be nice, however.

anonymous
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June 03, 2012
I agree that being a teacher is a tough job and I appreciate that path, but I am also tired of teachers screaming about only getting paid for 190 days. If you love what you do, shouldn't matter the money. If you want money, you need to find that path and put the effort into it. When you voluntarily enter into a contract and then complain about it, then you start sounding like a pro athlete
Lots and lots of
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May 31, 2012
Lots of gall to make these claims about saving jobs. Anyone who is half awake knows that to be untrue. All they have done is down grade a Cobb education another notch. In the last 15 years we've gone from being the top rated public system (out of about 200 in GA)to the rank of about 40th today. The supers, boards and county office leadership go a long way toward explaining how that happened. They all must have done their basic training under the captain and crew of the TITANIC.
Cobb Taxpayer
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May 31, 2012
Past time for the Cobb Board to start looking at non-core teachers who don't teach core subjects 100% of the time. The missappropriating of SPLOST funds and taking from reserves for operations is lacking in leadership, vision and reality ! Time to trim the non-core teachers and return to basics ! The next budget cycle is already exposed and now is the for serious action and leadership !
anonymous
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June 01, 2012
What are the basics in your mind? Non-core connections have been cut, and those left are teaching classes of 40 students. Where will those students be placed if we go back to basics and offer only core? We don't have enough core teachers, so further cuts in non-core will result in hiring new. Net gain. (Good luck finding qualified math teachers.) Music, arts, and physical education were part of the core content for the Greeks and Romans. Can't get much more basic than that.
Jim Stoll
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May 31, 2012
I ran a business for 35 years and I thought I knew something about hiring, firing and laying employees off, but I guess I'm really dense.

I find it difficult to understand how CCSD administrative staff can "work real hard" in taking on a "Herculean Task" of getting rid of 350 teachers without laying anyone off. Tell me: How do these administrative staff members convince 350 educated adult employees to forgo unemployment compensation and just fade into the sunset instead of forcing a layoff.

Tell me: Why are all those who are performing this disappearing act teachers? We have ruduced the teacher count for two years in a row now. When are we going to begin cut the supervising staff as well? Are their jobs more important than teachers? I thought the only purpose of the CCSD was to teach.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that someone is massaging the truth here. Either the purveyor of this information is exceptional at manipulating the truch or the teachers involved in leaving the CCSD are exceptionally dumb. Could it be that the teachers are the only ones who don't want to work for the CCSD anymore, given current conditions there.

I understand that our school board is once again spending time to develop a new "strategic plan". I keep wondering when they are going to decide to change their job description, since that seems to be what they have already done.
anonymous
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May 31, 2012
Mr. Stoll:

Though you may find it difficult to understand, people retire, people quit, people move, etc... easy to get to 350 teachers or more each year, plus some janitors, secretaries, bus drivers, principals, administrators, etc...

The hard part is filling open positions with the remaining talent pool, including resulting transfers.

Consider asking who has retired and at what positions... Doubtful it's 100% teachers.

So rather than insinuating that some are untruthful and that retiring teachers are dumb, here's your $62 million question;

As a 35 year business veteran, and knowing that 90% of expenses are personnel - What are your solutions to close the budget gap?

BONUS: You get extra credit for identifying more than $62 million in actual savings.

Are you in the Banks camp - Spend it all?

Or, are you in the Stultz camp - Cut 700 teachers?
Mavis Heard
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May 31, 2012
Bravo, Anonymous! We never get answers from the peanut gallery - only uneducated, unininformed whining. As of this writing we are still waiting for Mr. Stoll's answer. As the crickets chirp.
leChat
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May 31, 2012
You're exactly right, Jim. If you happen to know a few teachers in the Cobb system, it's no problem getting stories of various shenanigans being employed to make things appear different from how they really are....placing silly restrictions on which students can enroll for particular courses and then claiming there's not enough demand for them, for example. A number of good, experienced, long-time teachers are retiring earlier than originally planned after being fed up with lack of support from administrators and continuing cuts, furloughs, and increased workloads.

What we're getting is a continuing degradation of education, especially for the dedicated, exceptional students. But hey, I'll save $10 on my property tax bill....WOOOHOOO!
to lechat
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June 01, 2012
You just nailed it. There are so many problems, many that you just stated. The problem I have, is that you just want to add money to the problem.

Tax increases will NOT solve the problems. The board and the CCSD are running the system into the ground. Not because of lack on cash, but because of poor decisions. Just throwing money will not resolve the issues at hand.

And paying money for a strategic plan will not help either. The laws that make our schools be everything to every child is what is causing this downfall.

No longer do we just teach the kids. We feed them, we counsel them, we take care of all medical issues, we provide daycare for some, and we TEST the kids to death.

It is time that the schools focus on TEACHING again.
unzipped
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May 31, 2012
Time to look at the number of non-teaching positions in each school, the hordes of people in main office positions, and searching out fraud and waste in operations and vendor contracts. Cheating our kids by raising class sizes, reducing instructional days, and other stop gap measures that directly affect instruction are just the easy way out for administrators.
Kennesaw Resident
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May 31, 2012
AMEN!
anonymous
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June 01, 2012
perfect comment
anonymous
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May 31, 2012
Yes, but what about those teachers hired on limited contract? Teachers were hired last August when the district's numbers didn't add up as expected. Those teachers were not renewed, so saying that there were no lay offs is not entirely correct... Those are not "beginning teachers," but teachers who were laid off during the first rift and are willing to take any job, including a limited contract.

Could the MDJ please ask how many teachers who are on limited contract, or part time contracts that were not renewed, because those are also eliminated positions.
Yes!
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May 31, 2012
Well Said! There were many teachers let go! This article is very inaccurate and misleading!
anonymous
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May 31, 2012
If you take a limited contract or a part-time position, you know there is a risk, especially in this economy. If you are good, they find a way to get you in front of kids. If you are not good, it is an easy way to say "Good Riddance."

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