Rather than waste dollars on pay study, Cobb should dial away
May 31, 2012 01:17 AM | 2114 views | 17 17 comments | 9 9 recommendations | email to a friend | print
The Cobb government has a quite capable Human Resources Department. And it should use it to survey salaries paid to government workers by other nearby governments, instead of spending $350,000 to hire a consultant for such a survey in the midst of a severe budget crunch.

County Manager David Hankerson had a lukewarm reaction, at best, to most of the efficiency suggestions offered up last week by the Cobb Commission-appointed Citizen Oversight Committee. And he wasn’t interested in creating full-time audit and compensation committees.

But Hankerson was “all systems go” for the COC’s recommendation that the county hire a consultant to perform a class, pay and benefits study.

Commission Chairman Tim Lee also quickly jumped on board.

“It’s something that we agreed five, six years ago that we needed to do on a regular basis,” he said. “To keep competitive, to keep our positions and our programs and our compensation packages competitive, so that we don’t lose good folks. We need to find where the market is now; it’s changed considerably over the last couple years.”

Indeed, it has. Just ask the many Cobb residents struggling to pay their property taxes (which Lee and his board hiked last year) despite having lost their jobs due to the prolonged economic downturn. Or ask the many residents who have jobs, but jobs that pay less in salary and benefits than the ones from which they were downsized during the downturn.

Meanwhile, taxpayers who keep an eye on local governments have deciphered the way bureaucracies “game” salary studies. They’re used to justify higher salaries for many employees or pay grades because some other jurisdiction halfway across the metro area is paying more than we are. So we raise our pay. Then guess what? Those other jurisdictions do studies that show we’re paying more than they are, and thus raise their compensation; and the cycle repeats itself.

And when was the last time you heard of such a study that reported that the sponsoring government was paying most, or all — or any — of its workers too much, and recommended decreases?

With the private sector struggling to make payrolls, with private-sector annual raises a distant memory for many workers and with a surplus of qualified people competing in the job market, it’s hard to see much justification for such a study. And it’s hard to see any justification for spending close to a half-million tax dollars on it; especially coming on the heels of last year’s decision by Lee’s commission to axe library services and close senior centers.

Lee and Hankerson seem to be operating on the theory that most or all of the county workers under them are irreplaceable and thus deserve Cadillac-level compensation. They are not and do not, especially with so much of the county and so many taxpayers under water.

Taxpayers here and everywhere are tired of funding above-market salaries and lavish retirements for government workers. Such sentiments are not confined just to Wisconsin.

So if Cobb leaders are curious about how much county workers are getting paid in nearby jurisdictions, then rather than forking over local tax dollars to find out, we suggest they tell their HR Department to send out a questionnaire or start dialing away.
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Mike O. Bedenbaugh
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June 03, 2012
Let me weigh in on this pay thing for county employees as I worked for the county fire department before Earnest Barrett was even elected and it was call fire districts back in the middle 50s till 1971. We were paid $263 per month and no benefits except workers comp. The only uniform furnished was a fire helmet, 2 pairs of fire boots (1 pair hip and one pair knee boots) and a fire coat. Now jump to the pay scale. We were on a step grade pay plan by Earnest Barrett until they did the Slavens and Neivens pay/compensation study. We employees referred to it as "Slaveing and Never" after it came out and was put into practice. It did reduce pay and raises or froze them until you got to the pay rate it dictated. You also had to jump thru hoops on yearly employee performance reports to even get a 1/2 per cent raise. If you could not document enough things you were out of luck. They were trying to quit giving pay raises to all county employees. That was the first outside pay study ever done and a waste of money back in good times. Do not think county employees have it so great. No pay raises in 5 years, cut in benefits and more to pay into your pension fund. Thank God I am retired after 40 years of this, but I enjoyed going to work at the fire station because I was proud to be a fireman and help the citizens, taxpayers and traveling public when duty called no matter what kind of emergency it was and there are many different kinds. When you can not get someone to help or do it call THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ANYTIME DAY OR NIGHT 24/7 and they will come!!!!
Cobber 43
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June 02, 2012
Insider where do you get your information? It is obvious you do not have an inside track. Hankerson did get a rather large raise when the BOC thought he was going to be lured away by Paulding County. He even had one other raise before that. While you are correct, Hankerson does not get a county car, he just takes a rather generous vehicle allowance that the county pays.

Insider, GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
Cobb Employee
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June 04, 2012
Hankerson got a raise around $25,000 and the workers got no raise. Plus our insurance went up and so forth. The Chief Deputy has pretty much told the sheriff's office folks to sit down and shut up and quit whining.

Hankerson needs to go and so does Coker.
truth hurts
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June 01, 2012
Fire Hankerson, that will save 300k a year! I can't imagine what the taxpayers will be paying him in retirement!!
Inconvenient Facts
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May 31, 2012
"Cadillac"-how uninformed and insulting.

I am a county employee. I do not need another study to tell me what the market rate is. The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) has already done so. According to the Bureau's latest study (which reviewed salaries in my field in both the public and private sector), my pay is at least 36% below market. It is easy to spew junk opinions on this subject, but facts do not lie. And before you respond by saying I am lucky to have a job and because I am a government worker, I do not have to work as hard, let me further tell you this. I did the same job in the private sector for over ten years, and I work just as hard with no better benefits working for Cobb County. Working weekends and nights in addition to normal business hours is not at all unusual for me.

And if you do not believe the BLS's numbers, let me tell you about one of our employees who left Cobb County government for the exact same job in a neighboring county. She got a 30% raise!

Further, almost all of my neighbors who work in the private sector are taking vacations, buying new cars, and remodeling their homes. That is wonderful, and I am glad for them, but don't tell me I am overpaid-the facts do not lie

So, you ask, why do I stay? Because I love my job, and I love serving the citizens of Cobb County. But don't insult me by telling me I do not know what it is like in the private sector and that I am overpaid.
It'sFree
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May 31, 2012
DCA has the survey of all GA counties and cities on line and it is free.
Old Man
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May 31, 2012
What a dumb idea! Have the county look at ways to take money from itself! Do you really think that's possible - unless you want to pay for Safety Villages or mules, you can forget it. Hankerson has let the employees know where they stand several times. He want his county cars and all his benefits, but no one else deserves it. And remember, Billy "the Bully" Byrnes was the person who hired him.

And to Dustoff - I have tried to email and call Personnel several times and NEVER got a return call or email. Maybe they are above the level of your study and don't have to work as much.

The Insider
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May 31, 2012
Hey Old Man- get your facts straight! Hankerson does not have an assigned county car. He drivers his own car to and fro and on the go.
dustoff
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June 01, 2012
The comment about HR was tongue in cheek, they do not answer the phone, or return calls and e-mails.

You have to keep calling until you get lucky enough for someone to answer.

And why is Hankerson's picture on their web page????
Retired CC Employee
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May 31, 2012
Having worked for the county for nearly 30 years I remember these "pay comparison" plans. The county never compared us with governments of our size, but with smaller ones. If you were making more than some city employee, you didn't take a cut - you just didn't get any raises until that level of employee matched your salary. Same with benefits - it all depended on what Marietta, Smyrna, Douglasville, etc. paid.

Even the "outside" agencies paid for by the county used unequal comparisons to create a "market value." As always, the elected folks got the increase while the rest of use had to measure up (or down). Either way - it was all on paper and there was no appeal.
dustoff
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May 31, 2012
The last time the County tried this they hired Slavens and Neivens.

We had to fill out multi paged forms listing all of the work we performed, training we had, education, and answer lots of questions.

Six months later we got our new pay grades and I appealed mine. During the process the so called coordinator admitted that they did not even read all of the individual info but took a random sample.

They might as well have used a dart board for what it was worth.

But HR is too busy to do it in house, try to get someone there to answer a phone or return a call, they are understaffed and overworked. NOT!!!!!!

But you can be sure King David gets his annual raise!!!!

Cobb Taxpayer
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May 31, 2012
It's hard for this Cobb Taxpayer to believe that salary studies and comparsions have not been a normal practice for Cobb Human Resources - this should have been a standard business practice - another group that needs to get serious and do the salary studies and comparsions is Cobb EMC - they need it worst than Cobb County. Why does Cobb EMC Monopoly Members have the higest rates around ?
frogbreath
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June 01, 2012
Perhaps someone's brother in law is having a bad income year. Power corrupts, total power corrupts totally!
okpeople
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May 31, 2012
Cadillac?!? Not unless you work for the Commissioners or for the County Manager or you are an elected official.
Cobb Employee
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May 31, 2012
"Cadillac Level Compensation"... The only Cobb Employee to get a raise in the last 5 years is David Hankerson. The rest have gotten their benefits cut. Even County employees are supporting Tim Lee's opponent. Tim Lee has shifted the burden of the budget problems onto the backs of the employees, even though it was upper management who has blown millions on everything from the Safety Village to the Mules.
frogbreath
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May 31, 2012
The county and CCSD should get together and serve muleburgers to the attendees in the Safety Village where the Model Schools conference should be held.

Good money saving idea???
The Insider
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May 31, 2012
Hey Cobb Employee- you have no idea what you are talking about with Hankerson getting a raise. His pay has remained the same. Get the facts, call HR and ask for his salary history for the last 4 years. Better yet get a buddy to do it- they will provide it under the sunshine laws.
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